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Post by Tachi on Jul 23, 2012 15:58:41 GMT -5
Pretty sure both myself and Rain mentioned that we were considering having characters in the Brotherhood in season two. >.>
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Post by Addy on Jul 23, 2012 16:06:16 GMT -5
To clarify: there is an OOC side of it, where your opinions DO matter regardless of whether there are characters. Majority OOC opinion is "uniforms fail".
And there is IC side of it, where characters in game, at some point during the growth of the Brotherhood, sit down and decide whether they'll have the damn uniforms. Some characters would want them, some would not and some wouldn't be there yet at all.
We have all voiced the OOC opinions, but how it goes IC is still not entirely clear. I also have proposed a backup option how you could be for all intents and purposes in the Brotherhood but skip on the uniform if the IC decision would be for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 16:09:21 GMT -5
I was originally considering the Brotherhood as one of the factions Dlanor would work with, though that's shaky at best now. Partially because they... well, from what I've heard I guess they wouldn't approve of her mission, though she is effectively law enforcement. Sent by Heaven.
Also, the most likely faction for Kuroko, if I was to sign up with her(my final decision will come once I actually finish her series) would be the Brotherhood.
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Post by EldritchMermaid on Jul 23, 2012 16:10:35 GMT -5
So we're going to do the Stargate thing and make enemies of everyone we meet then? =P
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Post by Flanker on Jul 23, 2012 16:16:22 GMT -5
Hopefully we won't be following The Firm's example and going "We come in peace, shoot to kill!". That would be decidedly unlawful and Brotherhood-ish, I think (after all, I think we'd need a Casus Belli or whatever the equivalent would be). =P
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Post by Addy on Jul 23, 2012 16:16:33 GMT -5
I was originally considering the Brotherhood as one of the factions Dlanor would work with, though that's shaky at best now. Partially because they... well, from what I've heard I guess they wouldn't approve of her mission, though she is effectively law enforcement. Sent by Heaven. Also, the most likely faction for Kuroko, if I was to sign up with her(my final decision will come once I actually finish her series) would be the Brotherhood. Yes, Dlanor is kinda shaky. At the moment, while Brotherhood doesn't exactly shy away from using whatever is necessary, they seem to prefer imprisonment over execution. If Dlanor has an order on anybody they try to not kill, they will have quite a falling out. So, it depends on how much you will go with "Dlanor MUST KILL that dude" over her just fighting along and not caring much for exact fates of villains faced. |
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Post by Rain on Jul 23, 2012 16:16:39 GMT -5
Would't that be Meow Dynasty's job?
Also, idea I had earlier: at some point early on, Rain 'levels up' and effectively gains a Disgaea stat sheet through stubbornness, character status, and having been on a Netherworld for 20 years. Gives some way to have her progress throughout the roleplay, right? XD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 16:20:35 GMT -5
^^It's a must kill kind of thing. To the point where she killed her own father... though given how Knox's Decalogue works and how he was "experimenting" with it... he probably did some pretty terrible things leading up to her killing him. That, and the act itself was so traumatizing it stopped her from aging... somehow. The very act of sending her out is a death sentence for the target.
^Hah, yeah, it does.
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Post by Rain on Jul 23, 2012 16:24:05 GMT -5
I think that was her role in Umineko, actually: she's unambiguously lawful good/neutral but the whole scenario is just... bizarre.
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Post by Flanker on Jul 23, 2012 16:26:00 GMT -5
If I'm going to essentially turn Flanker into Brotherhood!Dr. Light, I'm not exactly sure how to do it (aside from the fact that they share personality traits, although that might be enough).
Also, I'm wondering what the Brotherhood will have been doing during the 20 year timeskip.
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Post by Psyga315 on Jul 23, 2012 16:28:06 GMT -5
So... how about a new faction where they have an execution over imprisonment ethic?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 16:28:25 GMT -5
@gcr: She's an antagonist in her first appearances due to the reason behind her presence, mostly. After that, she's pretty much unambiguously lawful good... just not nice. She helps out the protagonists, even.
In any case, she's law enforcement from heaven.
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Post by Addy on Jul 23, 2012 16:29:19 GMT -5
^^It's a must kill kind of thing. To the point where she killed her own father... though given how Knox's Decalogue works and how he was "experimenting" with it... he probably did some pretty terrible things leading up to her killing him. That, and the act itself was so traumatizing it stopped her from aging... somehow. The very act of sending her out is a death sentence for the target. So if she is not out to completely murderize the arc's villain and all who serve him, she would not be participating at all? Would't that be Meow Dynasty's job? What would? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 16:31:35 GMT -5
Pretty much. She'll only kill people who serve the villains if they attack her or try to hinder her in some harmful way(including attempting to imprison her). Or if they attack people helping her.
Well, probably if they do something evil in front of her as well, but she wouldn't be cleared to use the Red Key then.
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Post by Addy on Jul 23, 2012 16:33:44 GMT -5
Pretty much. She'll only kill people who serve the villains if they attack her or try to hinder her in some harmful way(including attempting to imprison her). Or if they attack people helping her. Well, probably if they do something evil in front of her as well, but she wouldn't be cleared to use the Red Key then. Hmm, yeah, with that absolutist mindset of her she does sound kinda unworkable with  |
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Post by Rain on Jul 23, 2012 16:33:53 GMT -5
Making enemies everywhere. We're a group of demons and monsters, remember? =P
Gah, don't make more factions. >.<
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Post by Flanker on Jul 23, 2012 16:34:56 GMT -5
@psyga:
That seems like a relatively minor differentiation (sic) on its own. Perhaps it's a more hardline, vaguely knight templar organisation that during the course of the RP seeks to show its' way is better than that of the Brotherhood?
oh god it's X5 and X7 all over again please help
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Post by Addy on Jul 23, 2012 16:37:52 GMT -5
Making enemies everywhere. We're a group of demons and monsters, remember? =P Oh, yeah, you totally are. Even with the default hentai villain motivation XD So... how about a new faction where they have an execution over imprisonment ethic? +1 to Rain. We don't need that deep driven conflict between the good sided guys. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 16:38:23 GMT -5
^^^^Well, her mindset does come from the fact that her orders come from an entire court that's deemed the targets irredeemable. And she will use personal judgement in cases where the enemy isn't considered evil by her.
^^^No more factions, yeah. We have plenty, eh-heh.
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Post by stratofarius on Jul 23, 2012 16:40:49 GMT -5
Uniform is not enforced, people.
But you have to understand that in S2, the Brotherhood will have multiple ships and bases. And a lot, and I mean a LOT of people working in or allied to it.
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Post by Flanker on Jul 23, 2012 16:43:04 GMT -5
^So it's sort of multiverse!NATO if I'm reading things right? =P
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Post by stratofarius on Jul 23, 2012 16:44:23 GMT -5
Also, the Brotherhood during the timeskip will not only be protecting multiverse-aware worlds (that want to be protected) and providing help in various forms to all worlds in the Multiverse, but they'll also make sure the War doesn't happen again and that another Dai-Shocker doesn't rise up. They'll also have a high security prison, and a system of law for Multiversal crimes.
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Post by Addy on Jul 23, 2012 16:46:33 GMT -5
Well, her mindset does come from the fact that her orders come from an entire court that's deemed the targets irredeemable. And she will use personal judgement in cases where the enemy isn't considered evil by her. Is her not having a direct order to kill somebody at a given stretch of time and just hanging with the Brotherhood and working with them a possibility? Will she still be dead-set on executing the villains in that scenario or will she be open to let the Brotherhood deal with them after victory? |
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Post by stratofarius on Jul 23, 2012 16:47:40 GMT -5
Goin' back home soon, so I'll be able to deliver better posts, and I'll also post sheets for my WBX and Gig's Party character + returning chars.
(And, on the TVT side, work on Votum and a Legend of Korra RP I found myself in control of. >.>)
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Post by Addy on Jul 23, 2012 16:50:29 GMT -5
Heya Strat. What would be official Brotherhood position on lethal force and stuff?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 16:53:02 GMT -5
She wouldn't be involved if not for her being sent to do her job.
She also wouldn't be allowed to use her coolest weapon even if she would be around. And if she receives a kill order, she's going to follow it and ignore what anyone says to try and stop her.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 17:29:31 GMT -5
Also, if the Brotherhood is that vast, wouldn't it be able to crush the villain factions fairly easily?
Honestly, I believe it should be a smaller faction. Not as small as it is this season, but more on a level with the villain factions in S2. That was, it'd be a more equal match then if the Brotherhood was some huge faction and it'd make more sense for them to be equal matches.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 17:43:13 GMT -5
WBX is trying to destroy populated planets. They're trying to cause multiple apocalypses.
There is absolutely no reason not to immediately devote as much availiable power to crush them.
Therefore, equalize faction sizes to make the plot actually make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 17:48:02 GMT -5
The Brotherhood, a faction that deals with only multiversal threats, is dealing with so many threats that it can't devote enough resources to quickly crush a threat trying to kill TRILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Yeah, that's totally likely.
There's no reason not to take enough power down on them and crush them quickly if we have the Brotherhood as a massive faction.
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Post by Rain on Jul 23, 2012 17:52:39 GMT -5
What you're suggesting is sending two or three dozen people out of a titanic force... because it's logistically difficult. Pffthahahah.
'we're cogs in a larger machine' = something terribly, awfully wrong. >_>
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